Trump presedinte?Who's next?

[Madanic]

exact!

iti convine sau nu, dar trump si republicanii au fost alesi de poporul american iar pro life e unul dintre motivele pt care ei sunt la putere si nu democratii cu aleasa lor.

 

poporul american s-a saturat sa finanteze din buzunarele proprii aceste practici criminale din alte tari si asta e doar inceputul.

 

cui nu-I convine e liber sa faca ce vrea cu banii...sa finanteze si sa ajute pe cine si ce cauza doresc.

 

Si cand oamenii aia de prin "alte tari" ajunsi deja in numere impresionante or sa ia calea Americii ca sa aiba si ei o bucata de bunastare in loc de o mare de mizerie ai sa fii "charitable" si sa-i primesti cu bratele deschise alaturi de restul "republicanilor" care au decis sa "nu finanteze aceste practici criminale" ?

[Madanic]

Nu stiu de unde iti iei informatia, dar adevarul este exact opus de ce zici tu.  Crestinii nu sunt de acord ca taxele lor sa mearga inspre avorturi, dar sunt cei mai generosi din lume cand vine vorba de donatii caritabile. Cei mai multi crestini doneaza cel putin 10% din venitul lor inspre acte de caritate. Dar a dona si a fi fortat sa dai impotriva constiintei este cu totul altceva.  De ce nu doneaza toti astia cu gura mare la fel de mult inspre ce organizatii vor ei si inspre ce tara vor ei sa sterilizeze. Nu, ei vor sa doneze banii altora!

 

Uite aici niste statistici.cu privire la cat doneaza conservativii vs. cat doneaza liberalii.  

http://downtrend.com/robertgehl/republicans-most-generous-people-in-the-world-democrats-not-so-much

 

 

Cat despre avorturi, in america nu exista stat la ora aceasta care sa interzica avortul, ci doar state care interzic avortul dupa 20 saptamani (unele chiar mai tarziu) asa ca nu inteleg toata faza cu marsul femeilor pentru dreptul de a face avort.  Din nou, lipsa de informare este mare si se pare ca multa lume inghite fara sa gandeasca ce spune media.  

 

Uite aici informatia cu privire la avort pe fiecare stat.

 https://www.guttmacher.org/state-policy/explore/overview-abortion-laws

 

Stefanyia, este valabil si pentru tine.

Trump si republicanii au promis in campanie ca vor lua federal funding de la clinicile de Planned parenthood care la ora actuala asigura servicii medicale de baza pentru foarte multe femei sarace, screening-uri pentru cancer, contraceptie asistenta medicala si da ofera si avorturi (desi nu finantate din fondurile federale). 

O mare parte din serviciile medicale se vor pierde din ambitia asta de a arunca cu pietre in absolut orice contine cuvantul avort. De aici si agitatia.

[Madanic]

Ce erau asa zisele "Obama-care" la care vrea Trump sa renunte?

Am tot auzit de lucrul asta (daca i-am inteles bine denumire), dar nu am avut timp sa caut si sa citesc pe net.

Obama -care este numele dat de republicani legii numite oficial Afordable Care Act (ACA) care oferea acces americanilor fara posibilitati financiare la asigurare medicala. ACA a facut mult bine, ramane de vazut ce pun in loc.

[Madanic]

nu stiu amanunte, dar din cite stiu astea sutn executive orders(un fel de instructiuini) ...nu e nimic diferit de ce a facut si Obama la timpul lui si toti ceilalti presedinti de-alungul timpului...viitorul presedinte dupa trump va putea sa le schimbe din nou...si tot asa...se pot schimba de la presedinte la presedinte

 

executive orders nu se pot da si nu pot schimba legile deja care au trecut prin congress.

 

iar asta cu zidul e veche...nu e venita de la trump ...daca nu ma insel de pe timpul lui bush s-a aprobat zidul.

Mda, doar ca unul din punctele principale ale campaniei Trump a fost ca sa conduci prin executive orders e impotriva democratiei americane ca face bypass la congress. 

Obama o facea pentru ca republicanii ii blocasera guvernarea si refuzau sa coopereze, dar Trump de ce o face?

Editat de Ianuarie 25, 2017

[michelle-usa]

Inchisoare?

Sa confiste averile?

Sa isi ceara scuze public in genunchi?

Sa ii ia copiii?

 

daca se dovedeste ca a incalcat legea (pt ca aici e vorba de lege nu de ce vrea/nu vrea michelle) sa ii fie aplicata pedeapsa, asa  cum ar fi aplicata oricarui om simplu care ar striga in gura mare"‘I’ve Thought About Blowing Up The White House" in Washington DC....

 

[michelle-usa]

pt cine nu cunoaste Roe v. Wade case de la care s-a pornit legalizarea avorturilor in USA.

ce spune  Norma McCorvey ( este femeia cu numele Jane ROE), care a fost folosita  in acest caz:

 

1.The entire basis for Roe v. Wade was built upon false assumptions.” These facts, which were neither disclosed to me in 1970 nor to the plaintiffs of this case before they had an abortion, are critical for understanding the issues involved. …we obtained a decision in Roe v. Wade based upon what abortion advocates wanted women to be able to do, not what women were truly capable of.

 

At that time, I was a street person. I lived, worked, and panhandled out on the streets. My totally powerless circumstance made it easy for them to use me. My presence was a necessary evil. My real interests were not their concern.

Weddington and Coffee did nothing to improve McCorvey’s situation. They knew she was on the street addicted to drugs, but never helped her or directed her to help. They merely used her, and then decided that her story was not compelling enough.

Weddington and Coffee made up the fiction that McCorvey had conceived out of gang rape. This was a lie, but was it passed on to the court and the media as though it were true. McCorvey would later say:

Although I was an emotionally abused child, and a sexually abused teenager, I believe the worst abuse was inflicted by the judicial system. In retrospect, I was exploited by two self-interested attorneys.

​2.“I didn’t know during the Roe v. Wade case that the life of a human being was terminated.”

 

3.“The courts…I feel used me to justify legalization of terminating of the lives of over 35 million babies.”

 

4.McCorvey trusted her lawyers, and signed the affidavit of Roe v. Wade without reading it. Knowing little about abortion procedures, McCorvey believed Weddington when she told her that abortion was removing “a bit of tissue.” 

 

5.“There were dead babies and baby parts stacked like cord wood.”

I worked in several abortion facilities over the years...Aborted babies were stored here. There were dead babies and baby parts stacked like cord wood. Some of the babies made it into buckets and others did not,….. The stench was horrible. Plastic bags full of baby parts, little tiny hands and feet visible through the jars, frozen in blood. The abortion clinic’s personnel always referred to these dismembered babies as “tissue.”

 

6.“No one even explained to the mother that the child already existed and the life of a human was being terminated.

 

 

7 “I long for the day that justice will be done and the burden from all of these deaths will be removed from my shoulders.”

 

Now firmly in the pro-life movement, she wants to undo the harm her case caused:

I long for the day that justice will be done and the burden from all of these deaths will be removed from my shoulders. I want to do everything in my power to help women and their children. (3)

sursa:

http://liveactionnews.org/7-powerful-quotes-from-jane-roe-of-roe-v-wade/

[michelle-usa]

Today, January 24, 2017, the United States House of Representatives passed H.R.7 by a vote of 238 to 183, making the Hyde Amendment permanent. 

The Hyde Amendment prohibits taxpayer dollars from being used to fund abortions through Medicaid.

“We are a pro-life Congress,” said House Speaker Paul Ryan in a statement. “Today we renewed our commitment to the Hyde Amendment with the passage of the No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act.

 

 

Planned Parenthood’s 2014-2015 report noted an increase in the percentage of services associated with abortion, while the percentage of other medical services provided by the agency decreased.

 

Though the Hyde Amendment technically prohibits Planned Parenthood from using federal funds to pay for abortion, there exists no method of independent accountability ensuring federal funds are kept separate.

[michelle-usa]

ma infioara...am dat de situl asta din greseala...

in direct numarul avorturilor:

 

http://www.numberofabortions.com/

 

In United States today
1,591.6...creste la fiecare citeva secunde

US since 1973: Roe vs Wade
59,748,069.9

By Planned Parenthood since 1970
7,631,128.0

By Planned Parenthood this year
21,777.0

Editat de Ianuarie 25, 2017

[Qarina]

Si eu m-as infiora... dar gandindu-ma la cum s-a ajuns la cifrele astea Michelle.... nu la faptul ca cineva chiar a sustinut o procedura medicala.

[michelle-usa]

Daca as putea sa scriu cu cele mai mai litere posibile:

 

EU NU SINT DE ACORD CA BISERICA SA NU FIE TAXATA ATITA VREME CIT SE AMESTECA IN VIATA MEA PERSONALA. Un platitor de taxe nu alege sa mearga banii strinsi unde vrea muschiul lui. Ceea ce fac acest falsi credinciosi este un abuz. Un abuz grosolan.

nu este nici un abuz.

sunt sute de organizatii (nereligioase) neplatitoare de taxe...nu doar biserica.

 

bisericile ofera,:daycare, mancare, haine...acoperis...ajutoare imense celor aflati la nevoie...mult mai multe beneficii comunitatii,decit aceste taxe.

Editat de Ianuarie 25, 2017