Trump presedinte?Who's next?

[Collins20]

ce stii tu despre pacat? poate deschizi un subiect si ne luminezi...ce e pacatul, cind cum pacatuim...

Din nefericire am apasat unde nu trebuia si ti-am dat niste voturi pozitive.

 

Eu stiu ca atunci cand esti expert in pacate nici macar nu le observi la ceilalti pentru ca esti prea preocupat cu ale tale . Cum poti sa iubesti pe Dumnezeu daca nu-ti iubesti aproapele .

 

Si mai am o intrebare , retorica , cum se face ca acesti oameni care vor sa hotarasca cine se naste si cine nu au de obicei o familie planificata cu acuratele , exact cum a fost "planul " Domnului , adica 1-2 copii , nu mai mult , ca sa poata vorbi din plinatatea virtutilor .

Does this make sense?

[viviana]

care interventii sunt inoportune Viviana... ca am spus de madona sa fie pedepsita conform legii si  ca nu promovez avortul in gura mare ca altii?

 

"marsul" am spus ca a fost intutil pt ca de fapt nu era un mars pt sustinerea drepturilor dar un protest impotriva unui presedinte abia ales.

 

nu l-am preferat pe Trump decit ca alternativa Hillary...dar cuvintele astea s-au perdut printre atitea pagin...si din start mi  s-a pus stamplia de "trumpista". sunt constienta ca va face si  lucruri cu care nu voi fi de acord...dar asta e...doar sper sa nu fie prea multe.

 

si e culmea culmilor, a devenit o crima sa fii impotriva avortului...tocmai pe un site DESPRE COPII.

 

M-am referit la inerventia ta apropo de Madonna si la faptul ca ai scos propozitia din context. Ea beneficiaza de dreptul la libera exprimare si la prezumtia de nevinovatie.

Pe acest drept la libera exprimare s-a constituit America si mi-am inchipuit ca il dorresti respectat indiferent daca vorbitorul e de partea ta sau nu.

 

Ea a spus asa:

„Detractorilor care cred că acest marş nu va duce la nimic: Fuck you!”, a strigat ea. „Este începutul unei schimbări care se cere, care cere sacrificii, care ne va îndemna să facem alegeri diferite”, şi le-a strigat celor prezenţi: „Sunteţi pregătiţi?”. „Da, suntem pregătiţi”, au răspuns mulţimile.

 

 

""„Sunt furioasă. M-am gândit să arunc în aer Casa Albă”. „Dar ştiu că asta nu va schimba nimic. Nu putem cădea pradă disperării. Trebuie să ne iubim unul pe altul, altfel murim. Aleg dragostea. Sunteţi de acord cu mine?”, şi le-a cerut manifestanţilor să strige: „Alegem dragostea!”. 

 

Legea nu are de ce sa o pedepseasca. 

Ea a indemnat lumea la pace si iubire, nicidecum la revolta sau mai stiu eu ce.

 

Daca tu consideri ca marsul a fost inutil e opinia ta si nu m-am referit la asta. 

 

Nu, nu e o crima sa fii impotriva avortului, multe persoane sunt si fara sa fie religioase. Dar sunt doar pentru ele. 

 

 

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[roxanaz]

dupa mine este clar ca nu vorbim aici de avort terapeutic dupa 12 saptamani - nu iau in calcul nici filmari intentionat sangeroase, cu bucati de fetusi si alte elemente de propaganda de joasa speta. ci de cel constient, datorita unor decizii luate de mama, la varsta mica a sarcinii.

[Carolyne]

cu siguranta il aleg de placere 

ce usor si simplu e sa vorbesti din confortul personal. tu nici macar nu-ti duci copilul la scoala cand ploua, ca deh, e din zahar si se uda si mvai, poate se topeste; dar alte femei sunt obligate sa nasca, sa creasca unul sau mai multi copii in mizerie si lipsuri doar ca asa decideti voi, unii, din casele voastre spatioase si goale. voi aia ce va declarati mari iubitori de D-zeu

 

Mai explicit nici ca se putea.

Cine-i asa ingrijorat de sarcini sa-si vada de cele din familie, sora, fiica, mama, bunica,  vecina, dar lasati va rog uterele altora in pace, nu mai va erijati in atotstiutori.

Ce nu-i asa de clar: fiecare sa hotarasca pentru el. 

[DarkBendis]

Oricum, stau lucrurile bine [xx(]

 

Au trecut primele 5 zile.

Sumarul "maretelor realizari",  compilatie care circula pe retelele de socializare. Vorba lor, "read and weep"

 

To recap:
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the DOJ’s Violence Against Women programs.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the National Endowment for the Arts.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the National Endowment for the Humanities.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Minority Business Development Agency.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Economic Development Administration.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the International Trade Administration.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Manufacturing Extension Partnership.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Community Oriented Policing Services.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Legal Services Corporation.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Civil Rights Division of the DOJ.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Environmental and Natural Resources Division of the DOJ.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Overseas Private Investment Corporation.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Electricity Deliverability and Energy Reliability.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy.
* On January 19th, 2017, DT said that he would cut funding for the Office of Fossil Energy.
* On January 20th, 2017, DT ordered all regulatory powers of all federal agencies frozen.
* On January 20th, 2017, DT ordered the National Parks Service to stop using social media after RTing factual, side by side photos of the crowds for the 2009 and 2017 inaugurations.
* On January 20th, 2017, roughly 230 protestors were arrested in DC and face unprecedented felony riot charges. Among them were legal observers, journalists, and medics.
* On January 20th, 2017, a member of the International Workers of the World was shot in the stomach at an anti-fascist protest in Seattle. He remains in critical condition.
* On January 21st, 2017, DT brought a group of 40 cheerleaders to a meeting with the CIA to cheer for him during a speech that consisted almost entirely of framing himself as the victim of dishonest press.
* On January 21st, 2017, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer held a press conference largely to attack the press for accurately reporting the size of attendance at the inaugural festivities, saying that the inauguration had the largest audience of any in history, “period.”
* On January 22nd, 2017, White House advisor Kellyann Conway defended Spicer’s lies as “alternative facts” on national television news.
* On January 22nd, 2017, DT appeared to blow a kiss to director James Comey during a meeting with the FBI, and then opened his arms in a gesture of strange, paternal affection, before hugging him with a pat on the back.
* On January 23rd, 2017, DT reinstated the global gag order, which defunds international organizations that even mention abortion as a medical option.
* On January 23rd, 2017, Spicer said that the US will not tolerate China’s expansion onto islands in the South China Sea, essentially threatening war with China.
* On January 23rd, 2017, DT repeated the lie that 3-5 million people voted “illegally” thus costing him the popular vote.
* On January 23rd, 2017, it was announced that the man who shot the anti-fascist protester in Seattle was released without charges, despite turning himself in.
* On January 24th, 2017, Spicer reiterated the lie that 3-5 million people voted “illegally” thus costing DT the popular vote.
* On January 24th, 2017, DT tweeted a picture from his personal Twitter account of a photo he says depicts the crowd at his inauguration and will hang in the White House press room. The photo is curiously dated January 21st, 2017, the day AFTER the inauguration and the day of the Women’s March, the largest inauguration related protest in history.
* On January 24th, 2017, the EPA was ordered to stop communicating with the public through social media or the press and to freeze all grants and contracts.
* On January 24th, 2017, the USDA was ordered to stop communicating with the public through social media or the press and to stop publishing any papers or research. All communication with the press would also have to be authorized and vetted by the White House.
* On January 24th, 2017, HR7, a bill that would prohibit federal funding not only to abortion service providers, but to any insurance coverage, including Medicaid, that provides abortion coverage, went to the floor of the House for a vote.
* On January 24th, 2017, Director of the Department of Health and Human Service nominee Tom Price characterized federal guidelines on transgender equality as “absurd.”
* On January 24th, 2017, DT ordered the resumption of construction on the Dakota Access Pipeline, while the North Dakota state congress considers a bill that would legalize hitting and killing protestors with cars if they are on roadways.
* On January 24th, 2017, it was discovered that police officers had used confiscated cell phones to search the emails and messages of the 230 demonstrators now facing felony riot charges for protesting on January 20th, including lawyers and journalists whose email accounts contain privileged information of clients and sources.
And today: the wall and a Muslim ban.

[stefaniya]

Darkbendis, si eu ma gandeam sa cer sa puna cineva pe prima pagina o lista DT, si sa se adauge in timp "maretele realizari" ca sa te citez 

[DarkBendis]

Cuvintele  Madonnei au fost complet scoase din context, asa cum au aratat si fetele mai devreme. Pozitia ei era "we choose love", nu una violenta! Marsurile femeilor nu au fost violente! Insa pozitia astora fata de presedintele Obama era clara:

 

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[viviana]

Darkbendis, si eu ma gandeam sa cer sa puna cineva pe prima pagina o lista DT, si sa se adauge in timp "maretele realizari" ca sa te citez 

Nu mai bine deschizi un subiect nou?

[DarkBendis]

Mai explicit nici ca se putea.

Cine-i asa ingrijorat de sarcini sa-si vada de cele din familie, sora, fiica, mama, bunica,  vecina, dar lasati va rog uterele altora in pace, nu mai va erijati in atotstiutori.

Ce nu-i asa de clar: fiecare sa hotarasca pentru el. 

 

Nici macar cu sarcina vecinei, bunicii, mamei, surorii etc nu ar avea de-a face. Fiecare sa decida pentru propria persoana, nu pentru altii!

Editat de Ianuarie 26, 2017

[stefaniya]

Nu mai bine deschizi un subiect nou?

 

 Ba da, m-am gandit doar ca tot la discutiile astea ajungem.